SFiO
The InterAction Collection
OF SOLUTION FOCUS PRACTICE IN ORGANISATIONS · Vol 4 - 2012 Edition

Making Numbers Talk; Language in Therapy

Classic SF Paper

Jan 5, 2025

Insoo-Kim-Berg, Steve-De-Shazer and Harvey-Ratner

Abstract

“Here’s something we wrote recently. I think you’ll like it”. And into my eager hands Insoo Kim Berg put a copy of ‘Making Numbers Talk’. It was during the first EBTA conference in Bruges, excellently hosted by Luc Isebaert (the food he prepared was a culinary marvel, much appreciated by fellow cook and enthusiast Steve de Shazer). Insoo was right: the article has remained one of my favourite SFBT writings ever since, and has been a standard fixture on the BRIEF Diploma reading list.

Introduction

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Abstract

The metaphor of therapy as conversation is simultaneously useful and dangerously misleading. The danger lies in what is probably an inevitable vowel shift from a to i, that is, from “therapy as conversation” to “therapy is conversation.” The vowel shift marks a transformation from metaphor to metaphor disguised as concept.

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